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whopper



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats strange, I use yesterday a bit, and when I start the device this morning it have 3 bars only.

Im going to test few days more.
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GrumpyOldMan



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whopper wrote:
thats strange, I use yesterday a bit, and when I start the device this morning it have 3 bars only.

Im going to test few days more.

Well, 3 bars is still almost full, esp. considering you used it the previous day already. This doesn't seem that unusual.
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papaathome



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since v1.02 it sometimes happens that the battery of my dr1000s are is flat the next morning while it had at least three bars left (75% charged) when shutting down. It did not do this with v1.01
I know of the occasional 'incomplete shutdown problem' and always check for this condition and have seen that twice since 1.02.

Does this flattening happen to every dr1000s or not? I hope it is a software related problem that can be solved with one of the next upgrades.

Kind regards,

André Steenveld.
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tribble



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this happening aswell. Someone mentioned that this problem did not occur when he safely removed the SD card before turning the device off. I followed that advice and had no problem since.
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Gogolo



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this problem did not occur when he safely removed the SD card before turning the device off.


Tribble: Do I have to take the SD Card out of the device? Or only tapping the button?

Thanks!

Gogolo
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tribble



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gogolo wrote:
Tribble: Do I have to take the SD Card out of the device? Or only tapping the button?


I only pushed the button in the menu, waited for the OK message, clicked ok, and then shut down the device.
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Gogolo



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks!
Have a nice day Smile

Gogolo
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grifter



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tested the battery life yesterday. It lasted ~8 hours, not too bad. Can't wait for 1.5.
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omro



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grifter wrote:
I tested the battery life yesterday. It lasted ~8 hours, not too bad. Can't wait for 1.5.


I got mine two days ago. I charged it for about 6 hours, updated it to the 1.03 firmware and then let it totally run down fully, which took about 4 hours. Then I charged it overnight and let it run down fully again, which again took about 4 hours.

Guess I'm one of those with one of the lower capacity batteries, huh? Sad
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parallax



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Please clarify usage for battery life Reply with quote

Hello,

I have been reading these posts, but am not sure what to make of posted battery life numbers. I was wondering about usage during discharge. Here are my own results, in context:

I recently bought a DR100S. After charging overnight, I updated to 1.03 and then charged again for about an hour until I had four bars and a green LED. This is my usage before the message came up prompting me to recharge:

Charged: Four days ago.
Updated software, then charged briefly: Three days ago.
Usage: Yesterday, 2 hours reading with page flips every couple of minutes (technical material).
Usage: This morning, 1 hour reading with page flips every couple of minutes.
Usage: This afternoon, 2 hours reading while making brief notes on most pages, with page flips every few minutes.

Totals: 5 hours actual use. 3 hours just reading, and 2 hours reading and taking notes with stylus.

This is my first full charge and discharge. This is a recent purchase, so I did not use the DR1000S before updating software to 1.03. I have not changed any settings from the default, so the digitizer is always on.

What have others experienced?

This is a long enough time working with journal articles or technical books to be useful, so I am pleased so far. The display, of course, is very, very good at presenting full-page pdfs of this type, the page changes are fast enough, and the note-taking and erasing both seem to work well. As a research tool, I think the DR1000S will be very useful.

=parallax
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omro



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My third full run down has resulted in almost 5 hours. About 2 of those were actually spent reading, the rest were the reader just left on the side displaying a page. The only stylus use was to access menus faster than through the buttons.
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Fly



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never had any charging longer than 4 hours at maximum and I didn't feel an increase in the charging times because of firmware (even the very first charge was done after less than 4 hours). Running firmware 1.03 (before 1.02 and 1.01).

Shall I leave it "plugged" longer than the charging display is turned on to increase the battery capacity? I think when the LED and the display at the right-bottom corner dont display a "charging" there is no way to charge it higher once the charging cycle is displayed as finished...

One thing I tried is running the battery lower by turning on the reader again after it shutdown itself. So to squeeze out the last bit of energy left and trying to increase the span between min-max (but usually there is supposed to be no memory effect with Li-Ion batteries).
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grukx



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Battery woes make purchase decision difficult... Reply with quote

I have been looking to buy the DR1000 for a while now, however I have serious doubts about the battery situation. I have not yet decided whether I should go ahead with the purchase or not, the currently reported 6 hours of continues usage is most likely not even enough to complete a full fiction book without recharging. I know the coveted 1.5 version of the software will alleviate this some, however given the power consumption figures quoted the device seems underpowered battery-wise.

Do current versions of DR1000 still ship with a soldered non-replaceable battery? The expected EU directive that mandates replaceable batteries will force irex to change this anyway, why not please customers and make this available immediately on new devices?

The product ships with a one year warranty that includes battery failures, but if after one year I need a new battery and want to replace this myself, what warranty would I be breaking? I realize that I may break the unit if I do this incorrectly. Would it be possible to replace the battery with a larger capacity battery or does space considerations inside the DR1000 make this impossible?
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papaathome



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery woes make purchase decision difficult... Reply with quote

grukx wrote:
Do current versions of DR1000 still ship with a soldered non-replaceable battery?


That will not change. There is no provision, at least in the casing, to make it a replacable one without hardware changes. And there is no legal point in spite of EU regulations to do so.

Kind regards,

André Steenveld.
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Shaggy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery woes make purchase decision difficult... Reply with quote

grukx wrote:
Do current versions of DR1000 still ship with a soldered non-replaceable battery?


Yes, unfortunately. I really wish they had designed it to be replaceable (as do many others).

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The expected EU directive that mandates replaceable batteries will force irex to change this anyway, why not please customers and make this available immediately on new devices?


The EU directive mandates removable batteries, which is not necessarily the same thing as replaceable. Also, I believe there are grandfathering provisions such that current devices (like the DR1000) will not have to be completely redesigned when the directive takes effect.

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The product ships with a one year warranty that includes battery failures, but if after one year I need a new battery and want to replace this myself, what warranty would I be breaking? I realize that I may break the unit if I do this incorrectly. Would it be possible to replace the battery with a larger capacity battery or does space considerations inside the DR1000 make this impossible?


If it's after a year, then there is no warranty to break. You're free to attempt a replacement on your own, but you are assuming the risk. Users have already figured out how to replace, and even upgrade, iLiad batteries. I expect that when some of the early adopter's DR1000s start getting past their warranty period people will start working on the same thing for the DR as well. Right now though, everyone with a DR is still under warranty, so most users don't want to start taking it apart yet.

Although, I do believe that iRex offers a battery replacement service after your warranty expires. It's fairly expensive, but it's an option.
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